July 7, 1979


Maharaj: In Nisarga [nature] everything is time-bound. Nature is neither male nor female. Many Avatars come and go, but nature is not affected. The story of nature is emanating from all the impressions taken in your mind since birth. So long as you are holding on to these memories there will be no knowledge of Self. If you just study whatever has happened in nature, like history, great lives, etc., you cannot realize your Self. You have to go within. Whatever great things have happened in nature, however powerful, still they disappear right here. These situations appear and disappear. This is actually abstract, what is solid here is the knowledge “I AM/' The seen and the seeing disappear. I tell this only to those who are prepared to listen. Whatever appears is bound to disappear. The greatest appearance is the knowledge “I AM.” It is invisible before the birth and after the death of the body, and while it is visible it is a solid thing. Many great Sages have appeared and disappeared because of the powerful seed “I AM.” When the prana leaves the body, knowledge has no support and it disappears, i.e., it is unseen. 

What I am expounding is very deep. You may experience Brahma even, but that experience will not remain. All experiences are due to the cell “I AM.” Both the cell and the experience will disappear. Even the best of your memories will vanish one day. The knowledge “I AM” is time- bound, all your knowledge sprouts from the concept that you are. 

Millions of Sages have come and gone. Do they presently experience the state of “I AM”? They had no authority to perpetuate their beingness; their “I Amness” became un- seen. The Sages cannot make an iota of change in the world. Whatever happens, happens. 

Questioner: But Maharaj has said that because of the existence of a Jnani the world is benefited. 

M: It is said to an ignorant one, one who clings to the body-mind. When there is no “I Amness” what is it that you need? 

Q: I am lost. 

M: Who is talking? To whom? 

Q: To myself. 

M: If you (the knowledge “I am”) are really lost, how will you know about the sense of being lost? You are carried away by concepts. This infinitesimal seed contains the universe. You miss the point, you do not understand me properly. This principle “I Am” I am telling you about again and again. 

Find out your identity. Whatever appears is going to disappear. What can Roosevelt or Gandhi do now? In the very places which they were commanding changes have taken place. Why don't they talk? When the prana leaves the body even great Sages cannot speak. 

Q: In the Gita, Sri Krishna says that wherever there is calamity and there is no dharma, he will come and restore. 

M: This is like the seasons, the cycle is there. In this cycle the deeper meaning of the Self is to be understood. All questions will be over once you solve the riddle of “l Am.” 

Q: Sometimes I feel good and sometimes bad, sometimes blissful, sometimes depressed. I know this is the mind; the Vedas say that mind is born out of the moon and hence it changes. 

M: Oblige me, after coming here, by leaving your mind aside. Good and bad are in the realm of the mind only. Disown whatever you get from the mind. 

Q: Who tells me to come here and be at your feet? 

M: It cannot be said in words; you can call it anything you like. Moon means mind, mind is like a liquid stuff as it flows continuously. Just innocently, dispassionately, observe the mind flow; do not own the mind flow. Be in the “I Amness” state without words. You give meaning to words and in the end words go; finally the perceptibles and observables go into the non-perceptible and non-observable state. Find that out. You will understand this slowly and get peace and rest. You do not do anything. It happens. You talk about knowledge, that knowledge is what you have read and heard from others. Unless you have confidence in your own Self you have to draw upon the authority of others, but I tell you from my real state; as I experience it, as I see it, I speak, without citing the authority of the Gita or Mahabharata. When you talk about the Gita you must know that it relates to you, every word of it relates to your own Self. 

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